Costs Of Starting A Clothing Brand (Revisited)

Tue, Oct 25, 2011

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This article was originally written by Ray Masaki of Lowdtown and posted on his blog: http://www.lowdtown.com/blog/

02 costs Costs Of Starting A Clothing Brand (Revisited)

A lot of you guys curious in starting a clothing brand have probably read my “How To Start A Clothing Brand” series on howtostartaclothingcompany.com

Those series of blog entries have really taken off since I first wrote them, but I feel like I can talk way more on the subject now than I could back then, and I feel like it’s probably a good time to revisit them. Perhaps some of the old articles still stands true, but I’m going to try to give a fresh perspective on it, because I’ve been working a bit more intimately in the industry and I think I’m a bit wiser on the subject.

I’m not going to break it down into the “amateur, indie, and professional” categories, because they aren’t that relevant anymore. If you’re thinking about starting a serious clothing brand that has the potential to succeed, it only needs to be broken down a single way.

Ok so here it goes… starting a brand costs a lot of money! Fuck what you think about being like Nigo and selling at the club, because that doesn’t happen anymore. Unless you have really famous friends or know a shit load of important people, you’re going to need money if you want to be serious. The fact of the matter is that the indie t-shirt scene is incredibly saturated, more than you would even believe. Trust me, unless you do something really really special no one is going to give two shits about your “awesome” label. There are labels popping up every single day saying that they’re the next big thing, but unless you have the means to impress, no one is going to care.

Ok, so now that that’s out of the way, let’s try to think rationally about how much money you’re going to need. If you don’t have enough money to start a brick and mortar store, the most important thing you need is a website. Unless you’re a rockstar web designer yourself, getting a custom e-commerce site made costs a lot of money. Unlike blogs and other sites, it is essential for an e-commerce site to have excellent UX/UI because it has to be as easy as possible for someone to choose and buy your product. The site has to showcase your products well. If you’re selling something, you want the product to be the highlight, and not be distracted by the intense illustration in the background. The aesthetic of the website has to look professional and complement your brand. If I see a dope t-shirt, but it’s paired with a shitty website, I’m going to assume that the shirt’s probably bad quality too, regardless of the design. With a crazy nice website, you can even charge a premium for the same t-shirt, because people will think that the quality must be superior to Clothing Brand X with the shitty website.

However, this obviously does not come cheap. If you’re looking into getting a top of the line site that shows everyone else that you’re serious, you’re looking at a couple thousand. But if you’re willing to put down that amount and get the proper professional treatment, I guarantee you that you’re already better than 90% of the new brands out there, because it shows that you care. Nothing’s worse than a cookie-cutter default BigCartel or Storenvy site, because you’re automatically dropping yourself into a sea of the thousands of other mediocre brands. I’m not saying that BC and SE sites are always bad, I’m just commenting on the fact that if it’s not completely customized, you’re going to automatically be relegated into a list with all the other shitty brands.

The next thing that comes to mind, even before the actual products is the photography. I can’t believe how many brands overlook such an essential part of branding for your company. How are you going to create the sickest shirt of all time, and take a fucking cellphone picture of it? That’s just stupid! Instead, get your talented photographer friend, or hire a professional to take good quality photos of your products. Also, consistency is key. I cringe when I check out the shop page from a t-shirt website, and I see different proportions and sizes of the product photos. If you’re going to take a photo of your product one way, keep it that way, and if you’re going to switch it up, you better change it for all of them.

And finally, you’re obviously going to be dropping a dime on your products. Being a designer with an ego, I realize one of the hardest things to admit is when you’re not good at designing something. I know I’m not the best illustrator in the world, and it’s important to be able to hand over your design concept to a more suitable artist. Pay a professional designer to do a design that you know you couldn’t do yourself, because if you try to do it yourself, you’re going to end up with a half-assed design. Obviously you can art direct, and make it perfect, but if you’re not the best designer, acknowledge that and learn to step away from the reigns from time to time. Be willing to pay the premium when it comes to professional designers, because that’s what they are and do. If you hire Cheap Artist X from Myspace to design your shirt for $50, you’re going to get exactly what you paid for, a $50 design that looks like shit.

Another important lesson is to learn how to test the waters. Even if you think you’ve produced the most solid line on the planet, you don’t actually know that until you see the results. Instead of making 100 pieces of each design, try getting the minimum quantity, and once you’re selling them, see what’s actually popular and what’s not. I’ve learned this the hard way from having not enough of one design to having too many of another and not being able to sell out of them for a year.

Quality is important, which shouldn’t even have to be said. If you’re not making a quality product, why would you sell something that you’re not satisfied with? Spend money on quality, and don’t cut corners. If you’ve got your own printing set-up, and you can print just as good as the professionals, congrats to you. But if you’re not at that level, don’t pretend that you are; leave it to the professionals.

If you want your brand to be taken seriously, every bit of branding matters. Make professional stickers, hangtags, polybags, mailers, etc. You need to spend money to make money. It’s all about looking at your brand objectively. We all fall in love with our own products, but can you look at your own brand from the eye of the consumer? What looks unprofessional and poorly done, what could be improved on? Those are questions you have to ask yourself before presenting something as a finished product.

If you’ve managed to follow everything on this list, I’m hoping that you’re in the top 5% of new indie clothing brands out there. Summarizing everything we just looked at, I hope you understand the weight of starting a serious clothing brand. We’re talking about: $1500+ for a professional website; $1000+ for professional branding and logo design; several hundred for photography; $1000+ for designs; however much you’re spending on your products; and money for mailers and stickers. In total, I’d look to have at least five grand, if you want some decent capital to start with. Obviously these are just my thoughts on the subject, and there have been brands that have cut corners and succeeded, but not everyone would be able to do that. If you’re starting up your brand as just a hobby and for shits and giggles, that’s fine by me, but if you’re seriously saying that you’re going to be the “next big thing,” you better be backing your words up with the quality. Good luck!

This article was originally posted by Ray at Lowdtown

Note from Jon Kruse:

Ray knows his shit and I agree with everything except the money it takes. You don’t want to cut corners but at the same time running a successful clothing company isn’t just about having an awesome site, great designs, and your final product. It’s a business and with any new business you need to learn how to run it and manage it. If you gave me 5 grand when I started I probably would have foolishly spent money on things that weren’t necessary. No matter how much money you gave me I still wouldn’t know how to sell shirts, you just have to learn. I have a good article called Fail Fast, which I would suggest any people new to the t-shirt world to read.

If you are a veteran though, by all means go all out. You know how to do it.

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  • Deee

    Thanks for that Ray, very useful tips!

  • http://www.hornoktees.com Rohan A

    Hey ray nice article!!:) can follow some points!!

  • http://cardinalcotton.com Dave Peele

    I read this article about 2 weeks ago and it was very helpful!  We are in the process of launching our clothing brand at this time and we are real excited!  Doing it on a budget is very important!

  • http://www.garmentprinting.co.uk T Shirt Printing London

    Ray–great article. I keep trying to tell my friends the same things you articulate in your piece. Everyone thinks they can start a guerrilla tshirt label these days…

  • http://www.garmentprinting.co.uk T Shirt Printing London

    Ray–great article and very well articulated points. I keep saying the same things to my friends who think that they can start an overnight guerrilla marketed t-shirt brand, but they just don't get it.

  • Gsbishop410

    Great Article, anyway possible I could get the authors email address? The “Contact the Author” tab isnt working. Thanks!

  • Iry

    This article is going to make a lot of serious people rich

  • Alina Meza

    thanks! took some notes!! I was looking into getting a something like a Big Cartel website, and all I could find were cheap looking websites, so I was disappointed. But I figured I'm not a professional yet, so why spend money on a professional website designer? I see now that it doesn't take as much as I imagined it would, and I would rather spend the money then be thrown into the “mediocre pile.” :P lol thanks!

  • Kyle K

    Thanks for writing this article. A couple questions for anyone out there i am working on my business plan still for my clothing company still, and was wondering if the best way to go would be to buy the clothing from a screen print company or find one where you supply the shirt. Also, I have been doing some pricing for sometime now, anyone have any suggestions of screen printers?

  • Louismoreau 2

    1500$ for a professional website is delusional. 10 times that amount is not enough for something regular.

  • jonkruse

    I know of many people who have gotten great work done for a lot less, and crap work done for way more. $1, 500 for a professional website is not a delusion.

  • Kirby

    Hi. Do you need to have all if the legal deals done before hand? Like copyrighting? Trademarking before you go the shops and approach people about your brand and products?

  • http://www.sprinkolors.com T-shirts Online India

    hi Ray

    you mentioned many point here but i want to focus on one point to get more gain in my profession is BE and BC

  • Aliu

    We are on the same boat. Screening cost is broad, the thinner it is, the more expensive it gets. Anywhere from 5~15 usd per screen. Single sided.

  • Carminstant@twitter

    awsum article …FUNNY AS SHIT …thanks aloooot

  • SGallday

    there are a lot of good companies out there but i am using a compani called Jakprints. the customer servise is great and they will work with you every step of the way aswell as demand a proof befor an order is even started. depending on the amount of shirts you do they can be pricey but if you want quality they are there with it. minimum order is 12 shirts anf the max is 1152.

  • Yuji_sasaki_2

    im trying to make a streetwear clothing brand.. but the thing is im gonna do it in my country which is streetwear is not well exposed .. just thinking how would i expose my brand to people.. thinking of hosting battle of the bands then sell it there .. is it good idea? im only 20 btw major in business ..

  • JJJJJ

    TIGHT WORK BRO KEEP IT UP

  • B1417741

    As a person who has started his own clothing brand, I know you're full of shit and talking out of your ass. You're a retard. We started our brand for less than $500. My buddy's a photographer, I'm a designer. We got our stuff manufactured in China and now we're selling it for profit. WIN! …Fail post.

  • http://www.soldoutcreations.com Scoota Watson

    I started Sold Out Creations in May 2011.  I spent money buying new equipment to make top quality custom clothes now I am in need of funds to keep inventory.  I have $4,500 worth equipment and failed cause now I have no capital.  I have loads of orders but stuck looking for investors now.  My work is in big demand an close to blowing up here in my city (Memphis, TN).  Its a hassle when I can't keep inventory up in stock to supply the amount of orders I have lined up.  Thanks to my loyal clients they are willing to wait on they order.  With this being said I learned my lesson in a major way honestly!  The nest business I start I will be a winner!  I am always looking for mentor, business friends, and others on the same path as I you guys can email me anytime at soldoutcreations@gmail:twitter.com as well!

  • Billplowman

    you sound as smart as you talk…. taking advice from someone who doesn't even carry himself professionally in his article. Muttered words wisdom followed by profane obscenities. Take a minute and really digest and search to see how many truly credible websites follow his website in their posts, articles, and blogs.

  • jonkruse

    Are you made because he used a little profanity?

    I've known Ray for a couple years and he loves what he does and has done a great job with his clothing company. Instead of being a boy scout maybe you should listen to what he is talking about.

    What part of this article do you think isn't credible. Do you think you should not get a quality designer and pay $50 for a design? Do you think it is a good idea to get a bigcartel site and just leave it as a the cookie cutter preset design it comes with?

    Really I don't understand your argument because you haven't made one!

  • jonkruse

    I'm guessing this is you again Bill. Awesome you were able to make a clothing company by doing it all yourself. I haven't seen the outcome of your products, maybe they are good maybe they are not. China does have some good manufacturers but also a lot of shitty ones to.

    I know personally I am a good designer but I still pay others to design for me. I do the same for photography and anything else that where I can get the cream of the crop work for me and make my brand look better.

    Just because you did it differently doesn't mean Ray's way is wrong. Even I put a personal comment at the end saying it's not all about money.

  • jonkruse

    Nope. Someone can steal your name if it isn't trademarked but who would do that to a start up clothing company. Also what most people don't think about is that you'll have to find and prosecute those people that do use your name.

  • jonkruse

    I would recommend threadbird.com they supply the shirts.

  • jonkruse

    I have designed mostly on bigcartel and wordpress. You can check out my work at http://www.doubledragonstudios…

    As you can see a lot can be done with bigcartel.

  • jonkruse

    There is a link to his brands website in the article. You can try there

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    Firs and foremost I want to thank you and just tell you that my Investment Opportunity Company, Skewed Minds (LLC) is going to be launching a LTD Apparel company focusing on T-Shirts, Hoodies, Costume Shoe designing, and PC & Mack Protective skin Designing.

    I have a screen printing concept that is working very well right now and EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS ABSOLUTELY “CHURCH”! (absolutely infallible.)
    Seriously, I spent $1500 on what it takes to generate T-shirts and I WILL make something to the effect of 2400 per unit of t-shirts (depending on where I get the shirt blanks from).

    PLEASE hit me up and I would like to ask you some direct questions about how things are done and i am willing to tender compensation for consultations.

    No BULLSHIT! you can find me & my work via Google, Key words “Skewed Minds”. I am an entrepreneur to the absolute core and I am actually attending school to refine my skills.

    THIS IS NOT SOME HALF ASSED POST TO INCREASE MY SEARCH RESULTS!!!  I mean what i say… or type. Any how please check out http://SkewedMinds.com and look at the Skewed Minds Network. My apparel has MANY points of distribution and a unbiased (and brutally honest) professional opinion is what I need before I fork over the cash to my lawyer for trademarking and brand security.

    Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon,

    Nick “K.B.” Drew
    President & CEO
    Skewed Minds, LLC
    @SkewedMinds:twitter via twitter
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    P.S. If you are reading this post, take if from a person who has failed enough to have what it takes to succeed. I am the web master & designer for every web domain on the Skewed Minds Network… without a web site in 2012 YOU ARE IRRELEVANT! Be blessed.

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