The truth about copyrights and licensing

Mon, Apr 20, 2009

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IMPORTANT PREFACE: I am not a lawyer, do not claim to be one, nor do I play one on tv. The following article and any advice contained therein is based on my own experience and opinions. Any action you take as a result of this is done so at your own risk. Don’t say I didn’t warn you :)

I know what you’re thinking…you have an awesome idea for a shirt, but it’s using a well known, copyrighted character.

Hmm,” you say, “I could probably get away with it, right? I mean, it’s not like own every aspect of the character. Besides, what I’m really doing is a parody and hardly looks like it…yeah, it’ll be ok…right?”

Sound familiar?

I get lots of questions from people who want to get into the shirt business asking me about using licensed imagery, sayings, and characters in their designs. They ask me if it’s “ok” because they deviated from the original works by a certain percentage, or because it’s a parody, or some other excuse they claim will allow them to cash in on their design while not getting into trouble. The fact is: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and even quacks like a duck…it’s copyright infringement. That means that the little “personal flair” you add to the design idea isn’t enough to keep you off the radar of any major company protecting their intellectual property rights. Make any excuse you want, but you know what? You’ll have to prove it in court…and do you have enough money to do that? That’s what I thought…

For those of you who don’t know, I run a t-shirt company called Fright-Rags which sells shirts based on horror movies. I started out much the same as any shirt company…I came up with some cool designs and started selling them online. As time went on, more were sold, and things picked up quite a bit. Now, I’m happy to say that I do this for a living…but it didn’t come that easily. It took years to build up my business, and lots of trial and error. LOTS of trial and error. I was naive at the beginning and even though I researched as much as I could about copyrights and infringement, I decided to rationalize my personal opinions on the matter and create my designs based on popular horror characters anyway. After all, my designs were different and, therefore, ok…right? Well, that was my first mistake…

On a cold December day in 2005, I arrived home from work, checked my inbox, and found an interesting letter. No, it wasn’t from a fan thanking me for the kick ass shirts, or another store that wanted to carry my line. It was from New Line Cinemas…and they wanted me to stop production of several designs I created that they claimed to have been infringing on their copyrights. Failure to do so would mean hauling me into court and suing me for copyright infringement. I will be blunt and honest here…I just about crapped myself. I had heard of this happening before, and even knew a few people that received the same letter…but it’s nothing like getting it yourself. I immediately responded by taking the designs off the site and writing a letter of compliance back to them so that they knew I had taken action. The last thing I needed was to be sued. Luckily, they accepted my compliance and the case was closed. Yes, I got away relatively unscathed…but I wouldn’t always be that lucky…

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About 8 months ago, I received a similar letter…this time it was from Universal Studios. One of my older, retired designs had been spotted at a small shop in Hollywood by someone working for Universal. When confronted about the design, the store was required to give up their source or risk being shut down. And of course, the paper trail led back to me. The design in question was a silhouetted image of the Frankenstein monster…one that I designed years ago and had since taken it off my site. While I thought I had created an original look for this design (omitting any trademarked features), they felt it referenced their version too closely, and they wanted me to pay them for “back licensing” for the prior two years. Just stopping production was not enough…they wanted money. And lots of it. I won’t disclose the actual figure, but let’s just say it was in the five figure range. In the end, I was able to talk them down to a more reasonable (but still substantial) amount and we settled the case out of court. I was not so lucky that time….it cost alot of money and was a major headache.

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Those are just two of my personal experiences with copyright infringement. There are more, but I felt these illustrated the best and worst case scenarios… So what if you want the licensing to a certain image, character, or property? Well, that’s a different story…

Depending on what you are trying to license, prepare to do alot of homework trying to track down who owns the rights to what you want to use. Let’s say you want to license a well known character from a popular movie. First, you’ll have to find out who owns the rights to this character. It could be the film company itself, or perhaps a company that licensed its use for films. If it’s a specific movie, IMDB can point you in the right direction of who owns the rights, or at least the company responsible for making the film. (Speaking of IMDB, I recommend a Pro account to get access to even more information and contacts). However, if the film is older and more obscure, the company that originally owned the rights may no longer exist, and most likely it has been bought by one of the few main film studios that exist today. I find that looking those older companies up on sites like Wikipedia generally help in finding out where the original company’s library of titles currently resides.

If you’re looking to license other types of properties such as characters or products, check out Licensing.org. There you can find information on new properties to be licensed, as well as whatdeals have just been made in the licensing industry. There is even a magazine and online newsletter you can subscribe to that will help keep you up-to-date with all the latest industry buzz. Perhaps the best page on that site is the one that lists all of the licensing agents that are registered with Licensing.org. Each one of these companies manages various properties, and are the ones you’ll want to contact if you want to license any of the properties they manage. A direct link to the licensing agents that are registered with them can be found here: http://www.licensing.org/agents/LicensingAgents.cfm

It is common for a company to use a licensing agency to manage their intellectual property. Licensing agencies act as a liaison between the licensor and the licensee, and are the ones that generally negotiate the contracts to ensure the licensor is getting the best possible exposure. They will be your main contact throughout the term of the license and the ones you’ll have to convince to actually get the licensein the first place.

No matter what you’re trying to license, you’ll most likely have to submit a proposal for review. A proposal generally consists of your reasons for licensing this property, what products you intend to create with the license, and how you will market them. Agents usually also want trade references of places you have done business with and even bank references to make sure your company is financially stable. While the exact type of information they desire may vary, all companies want to know one thing: how much money do you intend to make? No company or licensing agent is going to grant you a license without some sort of guarantee. Think of it from their perspective…they have a viable property worth a certain amount of money. It’s in their best interest to license only to companies that can get their products seen by as many people as possible…and bought by as many people as possible. So, one of the things you must submit in your proposal is a guaranteed amount of money that they will make during the course of the license. Plus, they will want a portion of this money upfront, as well asroyalties on any money made over and above the guaranteed amount. Please keep in mind that each situation varies depending on the property your licensing and the agency you’re dealing with. However, in my experience, this best illustrates what you can expect when you embark on obtaining legal use of an intellectual property.

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Ben - who has written 2 posts on How to start a Clothing Company.

Hi my name is Ben, I've been running FRIGHT RAGS since 2003, and we've been bringing horror fans from around the world the best in horror t-shirts and apparel. We know what you want, because we're fans ourselves. From cult classics to even the most obscure films, we have the horror shirts you want...better yet, the horror shirts you NEED.

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  • joshx
    Hi im in Mexico near the border and im tring to start a clothing company , planing on implementing in Mexico and USA with ecommerce does that mean i have to pay rights in the 2 countries?
  • What are the effects of doing this over-seas, ie. Taiwan? Considering the Asian market is drenched with 'fake' brands, but even local t-shirt brands are now using Mickey Mouse, transformers and such on their shirts.
  • jonkruse
    If your just selling shirts overseas in a place like Taiwon it is hard for the copyright owners to even know what your doing it. There are a lot of places where the local governments don't care about copyright laws and there is a lot of bootlegging going on. It's hard for copyright owners to enforce copyright law in these places.
  • Dwaynne
    What about font's is it wrong if I use someones font and just style it a bit ?
  • Leaner
    How do you get your unique designs licensed so no one can use it without your permission?
  • Mo
    One question I have is about copyrights and licenses of general themes and ideas of t-shirts. For example, Johnny Cupcakes makes t-shirts with cupcakes as a theme. Does this mean that no one else can design even a single shirt with a cupcake on it even if the image used is completely original?
  • jonkruse
    Of course people can use cupcakes in their shirts. You just can't copy his designs and call them your own.
  • Ben
    Ronnie - Honestly, I don't know. My guess is no because it's a parody...he took something popular and put a his own spin on it. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it's ok. He could have just gotten away with it. On the other hand, he may have gotten permission.
  • Ronnie
    Hi Ben,

    I have a question what about when Johnny Cupcakes does like the air cupcakes shirts or any pop culture shirts that are really similar to the original does he have to get a license for that? It seems like every t-shirt company are poking fun of pop culture and use something similar to the original.
  • stackpot
    Let's switch it around. Your design is copied by someone else. Any tips on protecting YOUR IR's
  • jonkruse
    I have seen this happen a lot and the best response I have seen to get action is having a community of support on your hands. Talk to them and see if they will take down their design then if they don't tell everyone to email them and contact blogs or any people they work with and let them know.
  • Ben
    Honestly, that's for a judge to decide. The basis is usually things like: does your product confuse the marketplace (i.e. will people mistake your products for licensed versions?), are you making money from it, etc.

    Basically, if a company feels they are being ripped off, they will come after you PLAIN AND SIMPLE. You mostly likely couldn't afford to even get to the point to defend your stance in front of a judge...unless you have lots of money to spend on lawyers.

    It looks like you're spoofing the Star Wars trilogy...be careful..they're notorious for shutting down people.
  • So what is classed as parody? I have a few designs using a well known character from a well know movie trilogy but i've done it in my opinion in a jokey/making fun way....am i gonna get sued? :-/
  • Ben
    @ Alison - Sorry about the link. They must have just updated their site. Here's the new one: http://www.licensing.org/database/index.php?tab...

    Anyway, the cost varies greatly on the property. It usually works the same though, in that you propose a guaranteed amount that they will make throughout the term of the license and you pay most of that upfront. After that you pay out the rest of the guarantee can be paid out based on sales and if you go over what was guaranteed, then you pay royalties. In some cases it can get quite pricey, but smaller films are usually more attainable.
  • just an fyi, that licensing link doesnt work.

    i see you have lots of film related designs on fright rags, so i'm just curious, how much does it cost you to be allowed to reference those films?
  • Jay
    Great info!
    Can designs be copyrighted by the company making them? For example, the athletic shirts that Nike makes. If I copy a design (no pictures, logos, etc - just the pattern/color), can I get into trouble for that?
  • Of course you can Jay. You are copying someone else's work. If your doing it with a huge company like Nike they would be sure to sue you if they saw your design.
  • Dubble Wide
    Is there a license or any sort of literature to be reviewed and signed to be covered by Fair Use? Also, has anyone ever been attacked for the use of small graphics? I have one shirt in particular in which I used several very small graphics because it took a lot less time than having to create each graphic myself.
  • Double Wide
    Just curious. Someone may be able to answer this question. Since this licensing and copywright infringement thing is such a big deal; should every design that you make be ran by a lawyer or a licensing agent just to make sure that your butt is covered?
  • I think running your shirt ideas by a lawyer every time is a little extreme. Basically there is fair use that protects artists but if you're being attacked by a large company you really don't have the money to fight them.
  • Alex
    Heyy, is it okay if i buy fruit of the loom shirt and print my designs on them and sell them, if not, where can i buy blank shirts, and/or put my own neck print thing on it
  • Theory-A
    Thanks for posting this expiriences of yours they really did help me...so thx again!
  • Aleem
    Good stuff.. How 'bout if I want to use a popular person's face such as soccer players, athletes or even politicians?
  • Interesting post. I was just talking about this issue today as TeeFury's tee today is the Big Lebowski. Not only is it infringing on the movie's copyright but it is also using the faces of Jeff Bridges, Steve Buscemi and Jon Goodman.
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